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(03-14-2024, 12:37 AM)LI HUI 提到: (03-13-2024, 08:36 AM)Plaksienko 提到: I can try it, but usually I2s signal quality is much better and I already own silver cable for it =)
Probably you can advice r2r dacs without such an issue? I thought about Audio-GD R-8HE MK2 or something alike. Hi Plaksienko,
Unfortunately we have never tested R2R DACs with element S, and very few users use R2R DAC. I don't have enough cases of element S working with a R2R DAC. So, I don't have advices on this. Sorry. If I have a chance to borrow a Musician DAC, the dev team will check if it is possible to be improved. What non r2r dacs you can advive than to be corresponding to S level?
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(03-15-2024, 05:20 AM)Plaksienko 提到: What non r2r dacs you can advive than to be corresponding to S level?
Hi Plaksienko,
To say non R2R DACs, I would recommend Matrix Audio.
X-SABRE 3 is a fine DAC, but some of the streaming functionalities are duplicated with element S.
If it must be a standalone DAC, you can consider to find an X-SABRE Pro from the second hand market, both non-MQA or MQA version are fantastic DACs.
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03-15-2024, 07:14 AM
(这个帖子最后修改于: 03-15-2024, 07:18 AM by Miguel Ángel .)
(03-15-2024, 02:00 AM)LI HUI 提到: Hola Miguel Ángel, ¿
Estás seguro de que la salida de audio se volvió horrible después de que tu Galaxy Tab actualizó su firmware? Esto realmente no tiene sentido.
Por cierto, el MA Remote no se adapta a tabletas Android. Lo siento.
¿Puedes grabar un vídeo para decirme lo horrible que es el sonido? (No puede cargar videos como archivos adjuntos a esta publicación; cárguelo en una unidad en la nube y comparta un enlace aquí)
Si esto sucedía, tan pronto como se actualizaba el nuevo firmware de la tableta Samsum Galaxy, la aplicación MA se volvía muy inestable. Remoto (no es que alguna vez haya funcionado muy bien ni en mi móvil ni en mi tablet, la verdad que aplicación más chapucera siempre la tienes con algún que otro fallo), en mi móvil la app MA no se ha vuelto tan inestable. El control remoto ni siquiera suena mal como lo hace actualmente en la tableta; No entiendo cosas así pero así pasó, ya lo sabrás...
Por cierto, no sé cómo enviar videos o historias aquí, hago mucho tratando de aclarar cómo escribir aquí xD
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And what do you mean by the M.A. Doesn't it fit android tablets? ...that doesn't work through them?
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03-15-2024, 08:27 AM
(这个帖子最后修改于: 03-15-2024, 08:38 AM by Miguel Ángel .)
(03-15-2024, 07:14 AM)Miguel Angel 提到: (03-15-2024, 02:00 AM)LI HUI 提到: Hola Miguel Ángel, ¿
Estás seguro de que la salida de audio se volvió horrible después de que tu Galaxy Tab actualizó su firmware? Esto realmente no tiene sentido.
Por cierto, el MA Remote no se adapta a tabletas Android. Lo siento.
¿Puedes grabar un vídeo para decirme lo horrible que es el sonido? (No puede cargar videos como archivos adjuntos a esta publicación; cárguelo en una unidad en la nube y comparta un enlace aquí)
Si esto sucedió, tan pronto como se actualizó el nuevo firmware de la tableta Samsum Galaxy, la aplicación MA se volvió muy inestable . Remoto (no es que alguna vez haya funcionado muy bien ni en mi móvil ni en mi tablet, la verdad que aplicación más chapucera siempre la tienes con algún que otro fallo), en mi móvil la app MA no se ha vuelto tan inestable. El control remoto ni siquiera suena mal como lo hace actualmente en la tableta; No entiendo cosas así pero así pasó, ya lo sabrás...
Por cierto, no sé cómo enviar videos o historias aquí, hago mucho tratando de aclarar cómo escribir aquí xD
¿Y a qué te refieres con MA? ¿No es compatible con tabletas Android? ...¿eso no funciona a través de ellos? Intentaré enviarte una foto aquí donde puedas ver claramente el error de letras e imágenes más pequeñas que otras en tu aplicación MA, aunque hay muchos más errores ahora y antes, como si le das al play cualquier canción y suena. otra, como si le das para reproducir cualquier canción y tarda mucho en reproducirla en muchas ocasiones, etc. muchos errores en tu aplicación MA, muchos siempre tanto en mi móvil como en mi tablet desde que compré tu audio en red reproductor y ahora es un desastre, por supuesto. De hecho, ya estoy considerando regalárselo a un amigo y comprar un reproductor de audio en red confiable y de calidad de una marca buena y conocida; un cordial saludo
Hola, reitero lo dicho… cuando se actualizó el firmware de la tablet Samsum Galaxy se actualizó la app MA. El mando se ha vuelto inestable con errores visuales en su contenido (letras e imágenes más pequeñas) y en funcionamiento (se cuelga mucho tiempo, etc...) y además ahora el sonido que sale del equipo de sonido es muy malo comparado con antes. de la actualización de Frimware indicada.
Si esto sucedía, tan pronto como se actualizaba el nuevo firmware de la tableta Samsum Galaxy, la aplicación MA se volvía muy inestable. Remoto (no es que alguna vez haya funcionado muy bien ni en mi móvil ni en mi tablet, la verdad que aplicación más chapucera siempre la tienes con algún que otro fallo), en mi móvil la app MA no se ha vuelto tan inestable. El control remoto ni siquiera suena mal como lo hace actualmente en la tableta; No entiendo cosas como esta pero así pasó, ya lo sabrás...
Por cierto, no sé cómo enviar videos o historias aquí, hago mucho tratando de aclarar cómo escribir aquí xD
Intentaré enviarte una foto aquí donde puedas ver claramente el error de letras e imágenes más pequeñas que otras en tu aplicación MA, aunque hay muchos más errores ahora y antes, como si le das al play cualquier canción y suena. otra, como si le das para reproducir cualquier canción y tarda mucho en reproducirla en muchas ocasiones, etc. muchos errores en tu aplicación MA, muchos siempre tanto en mi móvil como en mi tablet desde que compré tu audio en red reproductor y ahora es un desastre, por supuesto. De hecho, ya estoy considerando regalárselo a un amigo y comprar un reproductor de audio en red confiable y de calidad de una marca buena y conocida; un cordial saludo
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Dear Migule,
Sorry for the bad experiences.
The MA Remote App is only developed for Android phones, iPhone and iPad currently. We didn't adapt the app for Android tablets. So the MA Remote app running on an Android tablet may not work correctly.
Can you install MA app on your phone? At least the display is correct. Then we can talk about the issues of the app.
Sorry again.
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04-28-2024, 07:59 PM
(这个帖子最后修改于: 05-01-2024, 04:54 PM by Lars N. Clement.)
Hello Support,
Here is a bug rapport on Element S:
The Element S has the latest Firmware update.
I have extracted several SACD into a HDD and connect the HDD to USB-C port, the playback audio quality is high as such with no added disturbances in each track itself, over the IIS port, but :
1. DSF-files: There are no continuous playback for the next numbers on the album. Playback stops after one track and if I klick on the three dods on the right side of the album name; in the new window, I can chose 'Play all' ! But it still only plays one track of the album. What is this ? This is really basic in the functionality of any 'player' and not ocay quality ! Or have i missed out on something here ? Do you have a functional work around ?
This is not a problem with other audio file formats like WAV, MP3 or FLAC, from a portable audio DVD player or HDD on USB-C port - all done over the IIS port.
2. DSF-files: When I chose another number in the list from an album, there is always a loud klick/(pop)-sound (equally on left and right speaker) which is not level regulated db-wise by the position of the volume control on the DAC/preamp: Topping D90SE. This is a serious problem ! It happens both with Mobil software MA Remote App. use and with Remote Control RM4 use.
I'm petty sure it has to do with how the streamer handles DSF, because when I use at portable DVD drive on USB-C withe other file formats and the IIS port and change tracks there are no klick at all.
Occasionally there can be 'smaller' klicks changing tracks in other audio formats on HHD/SSD over USB-C, they are also annoying and tend to 'hit' the left speaker. It even happends when I turn on the streamer from Stand by state with both remote possibilities: It happens both with Mobil software MA Remote App. use and with Remote Control RM4 use.
Can anything be advised and done about all this ?
Just want to add that the software I have extracted the DSF files from over network from a SACD is Sonore ISOtoDSD and playback in PC software: Foobar2000 makes no problem afterwards with regard to continuous playback of tracks from a music album with no interruptions. DSF playback: There are no popping sounds using PC / Foobar2000 / usb-cable to DAC: Topping D90SE.
You did not come up with a solution for the user: [b]Plaksienko, who has the same problem with popping sound when playback DSD/DSF files. Can you not fix it with a firmware or software update ?[/b]
DSF-files playback: I do not think changing from IIS to usb connection, as presented to [b]Plaksienko[/b] present itself as a solution ! USB does NOT have separate meta-data and audio-data transfer, which is the big thing in IIS !!
Please comment soon - I am getteing impatient !
Thanks
Lars
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Hi,
I just signed up for a trial of Tidal and have been trying to use Tidal Connect with my Element S.
The Tidal App recognises the Element S as a Tidal Connect device.
However, when I play an album (or playlist), the first track plays perfectly but it stops playing after track one finishes.
This behaviour occurs, whether I start playback from my Phone, My Tablet or my PC.
It is possibleto press next track and then that track plays...
However, if I use the Tidal interface in the MA Remote App, albums (and playlists) play correctly... i.e. all tracks play automatically...
Using Tidal connect via the PC or Android apps, the play button continually has a rotating circle and the track time does not update, even though the track is playing normally...
Do you have an suggestions about diagnosing this?
I'm running the Android app on a Lenovo Tablet or a Google Pixel 7 Pro (Android 13 on Tablet, Android 14 on Pixel 7 Pro).
PC is running Win 11.
Symptoms are the same on ALL devices
I couldn't find any recent mentions of this problem when I searched the forum.
Element S is running build 1.0.7 Build 009
MA Remote App version (Android) the most recent one available (ver 4.0.2).
Tidal Apps (PC and Android) were downloaded today, so are the most recent available.
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(04-28-2024, 07:59 PM)Lars N. Clement 提到: Hello Support,
Here is a bug rapport on Element S:
The Element S has the latest Firmware update.
I have extracted several SACD into a HDD and connect the HDD to USB-C port, the playback audio quality is high as such with no added disturbances in each track itself, over the IIS port, but :
1. DSF-files: There are no continuous playback for the next numbers on the album. Playback stops after one track and if I klick on the three dods on the right side of the album name; in the new window, I can chose 'Play all' ! But it still only plays one track of the album. What is this ? This is really basic in the functionality of any 'player' and not ocay quality ! Or have i missed out on something here ? Do you have a functional work around ?
This is not a problem with other audio file formats like WAV, MP3 or FLAC, from a portable audio DVD player or HDD on USB-C port - all done over the IIS port.
2. DSF-files: When I chose another number in the list from an album, there is always a loud klick/(pop)-sound (equally on left and right speaker) which is not level regulated db-wise by the position of the volume control on the DAC/preamp: Topping D90SE. This is a serious problem ! It happens both with Mobil software MA Remote App. use and with Remote Control RM4 use.
I'm petty sure it has to do with how the streamer handles DSF, because when I use at portable DVD drive on USB-C withe other file formats and the IIS port and change tracks there are no klick at all.
Occasionally there can be 'smaller' klicks changing tracks in other audio formats on HHD/SSD over USB-C, they are also annoying and tend to 'hit' the left speaker. It even happends when I turn on the streamer from Stand by state with both remote possibilities: It happens both with Mobil software MA Remote App. use and with Remote Control RM4 use.
Can anything be advised and done about all this ?
Just want to add that the software I have extracted the DSF files from over network from a SACD is Sonore ISOtoDSD and playback in PC software: Foobar2000 makes no problem afterwards with regard to continuous playback of tracks from a music album with no interruptions. DSF playback: There are no popping sounds using PC / Foobar2000 / usb-cable to DAC: Topping D90SE.
You did not come up with a solution for the user: [b]Plaksienko, who has the same problem with popping sound when playback DSD/DSF files. Can you not fix it with a firmware or software update ?[/b]
DSF-files playback: I do not think changing from IIS to usb connection, as presented to [b]Plaksienko[/b] present itself as a solution ! USB does NOT have separate meta-data and audio-data transfer, which is the big thing in IIS !!
Please comment soon - I am getteing impatient !
Thanks
Lars Hi Lars,
Please enter the Device Config page of element S in MA Remote app, find "Gapless playback", disable it. And try (the 2 operations) again.
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(05-26-2024, 10:50 AM)Philip_2702 提到: Hi,
I just signed up for a trial of Tidal and have been trying to use Tidal Connect with my Element S.
The Tidal App recognises the Element S as a Tidal Connect device.
However, when I play an album (or playlist), the first track plays perfectly but it stops playing after track one finishes.
This behaviour occurs, whether I start playback from my Phone, My Tablet or my PC.
It is possibleto press next track and then that track plays...
However, if I use the Tidal interface in the MA Remote App, albums (and playlists) play correctly... i.e. all tracks play automatically...
Using Tidal connect via the PC or Android apps, the play button continually has a rotating circle and the track time does not update, even though the track is playing normally...
Do you have an suggestions about diagnosing this?
I'm running the Android app on a Lenovo Tablet or a Google Pixel 7 Pro (Android 13 on Tablet, Android 14 on Pixel 7 Pro).
PC is running Win 11.
Symptoms are the same on ALL devices
I couldn't find any recent mentions of this problem when I searched the forum.
Element S is running build 1.0.7 Build 009
MA Remote App version (Android) the most recent one available (ver 4.0.2).
Tidal Apps (PC and Android) were downloaded today, so are the most recent available. Hi Philip,
When the first track pauses, do you click "Next Track" on the device, in the Tidal app, or using the remote control?
What is your current playback quality? Have you tried lowering the quality to see if that improves the issue?
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(05-27-2024, 08:00 AM)LI HUI 提到: (05-26-2024, 10:50 AM)Philip_2702 提到: Hi,
I just signed up for a trial of Tidal and have been trying to use Tidal Connect with my Element S.
The Tidal App recognises the Element S as a Tidal Connect device.
However, when I play an album (or playlist), the first track plays perfectly but it stops playing after track one finishes.
This behaviour occurs, whether I start playback from my Phone, My Tablet or my PC.
It is possibleto press next track and then that track plays...
However, if I use the Tidal interface in the MA Remote App, albums (and playlists) play correctly... i.e. all tracks play automatically...
Using Tidal connect via the PC or Android apps, the play button continually has a rotating circle and the track time does not update, even though the track is playing normally...
Do you have an suggestions about diagnosing this?
I'm running the Android app on a Lenovo Tablet or a Google Pixel 7 Pro (Android 13 on Tablet, Android 14 on Pixel 7 Pro).
PC is running Win 11.
Symptoms are the same on ALL devices
I couldn't find any recent mentions of this problem when I searched the forum.
Element S is running build 1.0.7 Build 009
MA Remote App version (Android) the most recent one available (ver 4.0.2).
Tidal Apps (PC and Android) were downloaded today, so are the most recent available. Hi Philip,
When the first track pauses, do you click "Next Track" on the device, in the Tidal app, or using the remote control?
If I use the Tidal App, then I need to press next track, to play the next song... However, If I use MA Remote, the second track plays automatically
What is your current playback quality? Have you tried lowering the quality to see if that improves the issue?
No... I figured that was not necessary, because the album plays normally, if I use MA Remote. I can try tomorrow, if you think that's necessary?
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